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25/09/98 17:59
NOTES FROM reading "COGNITIVE CRITIC
METAPARADIGM"
This is a rough note taking
task, it may or may not be a part of this thingie I call my calling to do this
thesis. If I include anything - it will be more explored and explained than
these bits - this is not scholarly, coherent or ... though comments, directions (aside from
'walk two blocks then turn left and jump into the sea, mate"), are always
welcomed.
Role of debate critic as decision-maker. This is different
than Bohm dialogue. Bohm dialogue is a free flowing let it all hang out method
of communication. (my interpretation) Debate
paradigms have a set agenda similar to the 'we'll agree to disagree' mode of
interaction. (my interpretation)
Between debate and Bohm which paradigm will achieve useable meaning?
Firstly, we need to define what is useable meaning. The
choice in my mind is quite clear. Either we develop our own meaning or we take
someone else's meaning on board. Here we need to evaluate the cognitive
processes one progresses through to decide how to confront meaning.
At this point in history, folks living in democratic countries,
are free to meaningfullize, usually without dire consequences. When we are able
to determine meaning for ourselves, then we have taken responsibility for our
lives fully.
Within a Bohm paradigm we may discover new hues to
consciousness that we had not considered before. There is this 'the other' who
is the catalyst for us to see, hear, think what we had not seen, heard or
thought before. Then again, we can go nowhere fast, and feel good because
everyone else in the dialogue went nowhere fast too.
Within a debate paradigm we have this chance to defend or
conquer. This is a favourite in political, psychological and religious debates.
No one seems to want to hear an opposing view. Convert becomes the nature of
the game. Debate; like philosophy, psychology, theology and politics is not
humorous. Ever see a funny psychologists, theologist or politicians? When God
handed out brains to this lot, there surely was no humour included. Debate is
humourless (I do not mean sarcasm, which most people take as humour, but in
reality is the lowest level of aggression there is) nothing funny about meaning
is there? Of course I disagree and am willing to debate anyone on this.
Because we have minds we can not help but to analyse. If we
analyse we then believe we must have measurable meaning. If the purpose behind
all our speech and action is to either pass on our interpretation of meaning,
or to discover meaning anew, then maybe we have lost the plot.
We need to know who or what is defining meaning for us.
Unless we are so incredibly strong that we have broken beyond the mass-mind or
so weak we just swallow what is presented we can not evolve.
Meaning should not be static. If we are where we were yesterday
in NEW SITE = JULY 2014 - http://neuage.us/2014/July/ - Today, then we have wasted the opportunity to learn, grow - evolve. The past
several decades my personal wish and what I say every day is that I do not want
to be who I was yesterday. I am not a quoting type of person but Paul's line
that he dies daily for Christ has always appealed to me. I am not very
religious so I would not care to define that, except to say that who I was
yesterday died and in some metaphoric miracle; using Christ to equal Christos
to equal Light, perhaps the Light of understanding, I awake again anew, and in
a higher place than yesterday. Of course, more often than not, I am stupider
than yesterday, but at least I am not the same, and within my stupidity there
is the chance that tomorrow I will awaken with amnesia and be a better person
for forgetting who I was NEW SITE = JULY 2014 - http://neuage.us/2014/July/ - Today. (Now there is humour a politician, theologian,
or psychologist would never cough up - and why would they?)
This born again paradigm does not hold up in a debate
paradigm. However, within the framework of Bohm Dialogue it is great. I am to
the point of understanding meaning that I was unable to comprehend yesterday.
The thought of preparing for a debate in the future, then arriving into the
future with a new me and all that entails, is a very confusing thought. Maybe
as the debate began I would take the side of the person I am debating against.
Then to be an effective debate the other person would have to take the side of
who I was going to be and define meaning in that other, who I was before,
sense.
thankfully, as far as I
have gotten as of: 25/09/98 17:59
Of course I am not so
arrogant as to think that anyone actually reads this. My partner (the half that
makes me better, which of course would make me the better half if I include her
as a part of my half) doesn't have the time or patience to read this. I put it
on the Internet - knowing no one will stop by. Keeps me as one of the few
remaining humble Leos on the planet.
Re. Framework within which dialogue will work
Re. why do we communicate? Either because we are insecure
or need to convert or get someone to see what we see to maintain our power and
self-esteem; because we need to know what time the gym closes tomorrow; etc. We
listen to learn - we communicate to inform others - then maybe communication is
not a two-way thingie... We just talk to ourselves and sometimes a passing
shadow answers.
Below Lasted updated
Saturday, August 08, 1998 (long ways to go here - few links hooked up yet)
MASTERS THESIS ON
THE INFLUENCE OF THE WORLD WIDE WEB UPON LITERATURE
Notes
THEORIES: 1. Discourse Analysis, 2. Corpus
analysis; 3. Linguistic relativity (Humboldt, Sapir, Whorf) ; 4. semiotics (de
Saussure, Barthes, Julia Kristeva, Umberto Eco) and linguistics; 5. hypertext;
6. Intertextuality (A-frames); 7. post-modern; 8. metaphysics [meta-ethical](Habermas);
9. Allusions ; 10. Genre theory 11. Transtextuality 12. Cyber-cosmos
PEOPLE: Barthes(4-A), Eco(4-B),
Habermas(8-A), Humboldt(3-A), Kristeva(4-C), Rossi Sapir(3-B), de
Saussure(4-D),Whorf(3-C),
1. Discourse Analysis.
Focus of Discourse Analysis is not on the ideas, thoughts, plans, goals etc
which exist independently of language. It is both, instead, both on what is
said and done in the text:, a text's subject matter, and on how something is
said - the total of the language mechanisms and strategies that operate in
discourse. (Georgakopoulou p. 8)
2. Corpus analysis
(corpus = a body of writing by a single author.The main body or substance of
something.
3. Linguistic relativity
(Humboldt, Sapir, Whorf) .Linguistic relativity (Humboldt, Sapir, Whorf) .that
culture through language, affects the way in which we think, and especially our
classification of the experienced world.
4. semiotics and
linguistics (de Saussure, Barthes, Julia Kristeva, Umberto Eco): Formal
semiotics is difficult to disentangle from structuralism (Claude Levi-Strauss -
anthropology, Jacques Lacan - psychoanalysis)
4C. Kristeva:
intertextuality. influenced by work of Bakhtin. Charts a three-dimensional
textual space (intersecting planes which have horizontal & vertical
axes") whose 3 "coordinates of dialogue" are the writing
subject, the addressee (or ideal reader), & exterior texts...any text is
constructed as a mosaic of quotations; any text is the absorption &
transformation of another. Kristeva,
Intertextuality,
Hypertext
5. hypertext
6. Intertextuality
(Kristeva)- The semiotic notion of intertextuality introduced by Kristeva is
associated primarily with poststructuralist theorists. Each media text exists in
relation to others. TEXTS OWE MORE TO OTHER TEXTS THAN TO THEIR OWN MAKERS.
A. FRAMES (Chandler)
'Texts are framed by others in many ways. Most obvious are formal frames: a
television programme, may be part of a series and part of a genre (such as soap
or sitcom). Our understanding of any individual text relates to such framings.
Texts provide contexts
within which other texts may be created and interpreted.
7. post-modern
8. metaphysics
(Habermas)
8-A Habermas. 'One of
the most famous phrases of the discourse ethics of Jurgen Haberas is: in
discourse the unforced force of the better argument prevails. ('what others are
saying could be right')
META-ETHICAL
An issue of the analytic
philosphy and of the linguistic turn. theory that is convinced all moral
questions could sufficiently be handled on the neutral and theoretical level of
language analysis
propedeutic - a
reflection which clarifies the use of moral jugments in terms of language
analysis.
Meta-ethical reflections
are a part of discourse ethics in defining what is a moral question and what is
not.
Habermas combines
theoretical meta-ethical statements with the practical world - the
"lifeworld" contexts in his discourse ethics.
Gimmmler 'The Discourse
Ethics of Jurgen Habermas'
http://www.lcl.cmu.edu/CAAE/Home/Forum/meta/background/agimmler.html
9. Allusions: part of
all media; see the 'Mechanics of Allusion'
10. Genre theory
11. Transtextuality
Gerard Genette ("Palimpsestes" 1982)
Five subtypes of
Genette's 'transtextuality' (Chandler: Semiotics for Beginners -
http://www.aber.ac.uk/~dgc/sem09.html)
1.intertextuality:
quotation, plagiarism, allusion (a text's allusions to itself)
2.paratextuality:
relation between a text and its 'paratext' - that which surrounds the main body
of text (titles, headings, prefaces, epigraph, dedications, acknowledgments,
footnotes, illustrations, dust jackets, etc)
3.architextuality:
designation of a text as part of a genre or genes
4.metatextuality:
explicit/implicit critcal commentary of one text on another
5.hypotextuality:
relation between a text and a preceeding 'hypotext' - a text or genre on which
it is based but which it transforms, modifies, elaborates or extends (including
parody, spoof, sequel) Chandler adds hypertextuality to this list: 'text which
can take the reader directly to other texts'
(http://www.aber.ac.uk/~dgc/sem09.html).
12. Cyber-cosmos
Cybernetics & Human
Knowing
A Journal of Second
Order Cybernetics & Cyber-Semiotics
Vol. 1 no. 1 1992
'cybernetics'
- a form of
cross-disciplinary thought which made it possible for members of many
disciplines to communicate with each other
easily in a language
which all could understand'
a branch of mathematics
dealing with problems of control, recursiveness and information (Gregory
Bateson - family thearpist)
the science of
effrective organization (Stafford Beer - organizational philosopher)
the science of
defensible metaphors (Gordon Pask - cybernetician)
Re. Revolution in Poetic
Language
the 'Mechanics of
Allusion' -
* recognition of marker
* identification of
evoked text
* modification of the
initial local interprestation of passage
* activation of evoked
text
Umberto Eco stresses
that culture is a collective experience.
1. originally to write a
novel and change it into a hypertext document. And write a shorter thesis on
the affects of the World Wide
Web on narrative
discourse..
2. next idea: to write a
series of short stories which Sacha would illustrate and I would put into
hypertext/CD
3. write a complete
150,000 word thesis on the theoretical approach of meaning in hypertext.
4. combine the above
three: 1998
A. Write novel (edit
TRYTHIS)
1. Twelve chapters: Two
chapters per month complete end of 1998. DO AT UNISA - WORD 7 (print-out
chapter every other week
read on train etc. edit
and complete/re-write at UNISA in-between weeks. Hypertextual version = 1999
2. Six children's
stories: hardcopies completed end 1998
with hypertext completed
end of 1999
a. activities centred
around the story
b. read aloud with
scrolling or stilled pictures
c. recreate story -
multiple endings etc.
3. Thesis: approximately
50,000 words complete end of 2000
a. the influence of
hypertext on literature and society44
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