storm

Thesis Home, INTRODUCTION no-frames, lit review, methodology, URLs, Terrell Neuage

RAW DATA FOR CASE STUDIES

GENERAL TABLES

1. Storm Topic Specific – emergency

2. Astrology Chat – general

3. General Chat

4. Web 3D Moderated (see also: ** for comparison with non-moderated)

5. Britney Spears Chat

6. Baseball Chat

7. Instant Messenger

8. other examples of chat

v bondage chat

v Christian chat

v Afgan chat

Tables

STORM

emergency

.05%

103

.40%

.18%

.12%

.01%

.08%

.13%

.01%

ASTROCHAT

specific

.11%

.19%

.32%

.16%

.01%

.10%

.08%

TALK CITY

general

.30%

.09%

.30%

.11%

.05%

.01%

.05

WEB3D

specific

.11%

.22%

148

.37%

.19%

.01%

.06%

.02%

.03%

SPEARS

general

.01%

.16%

.62%

.05%

.03%

.07%

.06%

BASEBALL

specific

.16%

.15%

.46%

.05%

.03%

.07%

average

.12%

.20%

.38%

.11%

.01%

.04%

.07%

.05%

1. DATA FOR case study_ONE - STORM see also the bulletin board for Storm: http://se.unisa.edu.au/phd/storm/bb.htm

Updated Wednesday, 15 August 2001note this is a work in progress

RAW DATA FROM CHAPTER ONE

September 17, 1999

1. <EMT-Calvin>

2. <TIFFTIFF18>

3. <Werblessed>

4. <Kitteigh-Jo>

5. <RUSSL1>

6. <ankash>

7. <Miss-Zena>

8. <guest-MoreheadCityNC>

9. <guest-dan-boca>

10. <guest-Sundance>

11. <KikoV>

12. <mahmoo>

13. <JEWELLADY>

14. <SWMPTHNG>

15. <playball14>

16. <guest-sweetthing>

17. <guest-mandy>

18. <guest-Tom>

19. <ANGELICSTAR>

20. <davesbraves>

21. <guest-parrot>

22. <guest-MisterD1>

23. <lookout4110>

24. <guest-Jojo>

25. <KBabe1974>

26. <mcend5177>

27. <Zardiw>

28. <guest-GSO_NC>

29. <BASSALE53>

30. <guest-kodiak>

31. <ger3355>

32. <guest-EZGuest367>

33. <Heavenly-AngeI>

34. <guest-MrLover>

35. <IMFLOYD>

36. <guest-Beau>

37. <BLUEYENC>

38. <eced>

39. <swampkit>

40. <guest-ohNO>

41. <BayouBear>

42. <guest-jada>

43. <guest-ToNYsimmons>

44. <guest-Capt>

45. <guest-BobR>

below graph explained in methods section

1a. <EMT-Calvin> hahahaha lol
2a. <TIFFTIFF18> DO U MOW IF ITS GONNA HIE

JERSEY

AT ALL

3a. <Werblessed> Where your hous thilling
4a. <Kitteigh-Jo> near Princeton
5a. <RUSSL1> right over my place
6a. <ankash> New Jersy in under Tropical Storm

Watch

now Right?

7a. <Miss-Zena> how does it look in NJ?
8a. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> NO she's near 10th & Gville Blvd
9a. <guest-dan-boca> Can't load the Charleston SC

nextrad at intellicast

10a. <guest-Sundance> Got a house in Atlantic Beach, hope

it survives

4b. <Kitteigh-Jo> We have rain n NJ
11a. <KikoV> me neither
12a. <mahmoo> brb.......gotta go get me some

chocolate

1b. <EMT-Calvin> that weather building in cherryt

pooint says it s 126 degrees

in cherry point

11b. <KikoV> me too
8b. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> Sundance,hope so too
F/ 2b. <TIFFTIFF18> YES BUT IS IT GANNA HIT DO U

KNOW

F/ 7b. <Miss-Zena> but no bad storms?
C/ 13a. <JEWELLADY> HEY GATOR
B/ 14a. <SWMPTHNG> I GOT A PLACE IN CHARLESTON -

NO WORD YET

B/ 12b. <mahmoo> dark chocolate
B/ 6b. <ankash> I gotta go get some Xanax.
B/ 15a. <playball14> /\21 chocolate and carmel oh yeah
F/ 10b. <guest-Sundance> She should be ok, you ok IN

Morehead, how's the wind

B/ 3b. <Werblessed> Rain All up and down coast from

floyd

D/ 11c. <KikoV> /\24 sundance, doubtful
C/ 19b. <ANGELICSTAR> dan boca...all those weather sites are

really busy...i have tried too

B/ 4c. <Kitteigh-Jo> maybe more down the shore than

inland

A/ 22a. <guest-MisterD1> Hi !
D/ 8c. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> Steady but not too bad, the rain

stopped and wind is verry dry air

D/ 8d. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> weird
D/ 7c. <Miss-Zena> ok thanks
G/ 14b. <SWMPTHNG> GATOR-YOU STILL THERE
D/ 2c. <TIFFTIFF18> OK
A/ 1c. <EMT-Calvin> well folks im signing off here
C/ 11d. <KikoV> if it's on stilts, it'll be toothpicks
F/ 17g. <guest-mandy> any tornados
B/ 4d. <Kitteigh-Jo> Atlantic Cityschools are closed on

Thurs and Fri

B/ 3c. <Werblessed> At least he is getting weaker..
C/ 11e. <KikoV> glad you're not there
B/ 21a. <guest-parrot> its raining hard in hampton roads for

the last two hours

B/ 1d. <EMT-Calvin> i need some sleep
F/ 22b. <guest-MisterD1> HEY SOMEONE CAN ANSWER ME
D/ 8e. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> Good Luck, EMT, becareful staying

in that MH and God bless

A/ 13b. <JEWELLADY> hey
B/ 6c. <ankash> Tornadoes in Pender Count
C/ 11f. <KikoV> forget it cal, this things just started
A/ 17h. <guest-mandy> /\43 >5 hello misterd
C/ 14c. <SWMPTHNG> /\43 >5 MISTER D1-WHERE YA AT
B/ 9b. <guest-dan-boca> Closest nexrad I could find was

Raleigh - lots of rain.

B/ 11g. <KikoV> these golk didn't know a storm was

coming

C/ 19c. <ANGELICSTAR> /\43 mister d...what???
F/ 10c. <guest-Sundance> Has it flooded very bad on the island,

heard they haad a tornado in emerald Isle

F/ 17i. <guest-mandy> where is pender count
B/ 11h. <KikoV> big storm too
B/ 3d. <Werblessed> Pender has had them all dday..
B/ 4e. <Kitteigh-Jo> But one of my best friends live in Fla
E/ 23a. <lookout4110> Who is in Wilm. right now?
G/ 14d. <SWMPTHNG> GUESTMORREHEAD CITY- HAS

THE EYE REACHED LANDFALL

B/ 11i. <KikoV> ok, you like that, wait'll floyd get's to

Long Island

B/ 7d. <Miss-Zena> I believe this storm will weaken
B/ 3e. <Werblessed> Im 50 Miles west of Wilm
B/ 1e. <EMT-Calvin> i like being self employed
D/ 8f. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> not that I know of Swamp
B/ 6d. <ankash> Jersey knows, my sis lives there and

she is out of school tomorrow, she is a teacher.

B/ 4f. <Kitteigh-Jo> They are better than frogs spiders

are my thing

? 15b. <playball14> oh really
B/ 16a. <guest-sweetthing> I AM IN CONCORD NC AND

NOTHING BUT RAIN AND LOTS OF WIND RIGHT NOW

B/ 1f. <EMT-Calvin> dont have to worry about

someone telling me to report to worl

? 1g. <EMT-Calvin> k
G/ 23b. <lookout4110> How ya holding up Werblessed?
D/ 6e. <ankash> Thanks XXsweetNsexy!
F/ 17a. <guest-mandy> any one in north west carolina
F/ 18a. <guest-Tom> does anyone know where floyd isnow
B/ 14e. <SWMPTHNG> THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF

MEXICAN ROOFERS IN N CAROLINA NEXT WEEK

B/ 19a. <ANGELICSTAR> MY PRAYERS ARE WITH ALL OF

YOU ON THE EAST COAST....takecare....bye

G/ 11j. <KikoV> /\75 >2 good job, huh, how's the pay?
D/ 17b. <guest-mandy> /\77 >3 you go with that answer
D/ 12c. <mahmoo> /\65 ankash, i'm glad to know they're

aware, not a frequent weather occurence for them

B/ 15c. <playball14> easy about carolina
B/ 3f. <Werblessed> So far just strong wind gusts and lots

of rain.. Over 8 inches so far..

D/ 1h. <EMT-Calvin> /\75 >7 and those folks will be sent back

to mexico

B/ 20a. <davesbraves> 120 mi. se of cape look out nc
B/ 21b. <guest-parrot> the cooler is full of beer, bring on

Floyd

D/ 1i. <EMT-Calvin> /\82 the locals will be the ones to

get jobs

D/ 6f. <ankash> /\79 Yes, mahmoo, I hope they take it

seriously

B/ 23c. <lookout4110> Have the winds been strong?
D/ 15d. <playball14> /\85 >3 they work hard here
E 14f. <SWMPTHNG> /\82 WHOSE GONNA SEND THEM -

THEY'LL BE CLIMBING ALL OVER

EVERY HOUSE ON THE COAST SE HABLO ESPANOL

B/ 15e. <playball14> and cancun is great
B/ 22c. <guest-MisterD1> sigh...
F/ 16b. <guest-sweetthing> anyone else frim concord or nc here
D/ 6g. <ankash> No not yet, not here in

Wilmington......no tropical strength yet.

A 24a <guest-Jojo> Hello Folks~~Greetings from

Canada~~ How are you holding out down there?

A/ 25a. <KBabe1974> hello all
B/ 3g. <Werblessed> Gusts up to 60-65 so far its starting

to pick up a bit.. Only gonna get stronger Between now and midnite

B/ 1j. <EMT-Calvin> /\75 >22 folks need to be careful for con

artest after the storm

B/ 20b. davesbraves> 20 mi. south of raleigh here
G/ 31a. <ger3355> where is that at werblessed?
G/ 17c. <guest-mandy> /\96 werblessed where are you
C/ 4g. <Kitteigh-Jo> hi jojo
B/ 25b. <KBabe1974> /\97 >5 i agree with emt-calvin
B/8g. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> /\ 97 >5 Fortunately our best friend is

a roofer!

B/15f. <playball14> /\97 >7 everybody out for a buck

unfortuneately

F/ 14g. <SWMPTHNG> YOU AINT TALKING ABOUT MEX

ROOFERS ARE YOU?

D/ 6h. <ankash> /\94 >12 Hi guest JoJo......I'm from

Wilmington, the hurricane bullseye.

11k. <KikoV> you mean carpet baggers
23d. <lookout4110> ankash is alot of Wilmington flooded?
24b. <guest-Jojo> Hi
3h. <Werblessed> In Bladen County Outside of White

Lake

16c. <guest-sweetthing> the wind feels good and we turned air

off and opened windows here

1k. <EMT-Calvin> i aint worried our new 99 home

is under warrentyu

26a. <mcend5177> how is everyone? is everyone safe?
17d. <guest-mandy> where is that
14h. <SWMPTHNG> i SAW A BUS LOAD HEADING

ACROSS THE GEORGIA STATE LINE THIS MORNING

20c. <davesbraves> blessed...sampson co.?
6i. <ankash> Right many roads are closed! Many

streets are unpassable.

1l. <EMT-Calvin> morehead guess how many tie

downs are on here

11l. <KikoV> we got gun laws to deal with

them.........

16d. <guest-sweetthing> i am safe here I hope we live in a

doublewide

1m. <EMT-Calvin> 68 tie downs
24c. <guest-Jojo> I know the anxiety you must be

feeling~I was in two typhoons in Taiwan last year

27a. <Zardiw> smptthing................go back to your

SWAMP

8h. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> phone call brb
30a. <guest-kodiak> does anyone know why UNCC has

not closed

16e. <guest-sweetthing> where is floyd now
13c. <JEWELLADY> ankash hows the wind there?
24d. <guest-Jojo> pretty freaky
3i. <Werblessed> I have doublewide we got out..
16f. <guest-sweetthing> I am kinda scared b/c of wind
14i. <SWMPTHNG> WHAT AABOUT THE

CONTRACTORS WHO HIRE THEM?? THEY OUGHT TO BE TRIED FOR TREASON DURING A NATIONAL EMERGENCY LIKE THIS

23e. <lookout4110> But still not strong winds? when

should you start feeling them ankash?

16g. <guest-sweetthing and trees
11m. <KikoV> 68 sounds like a spider wed
1n. <EMT-Calvin> well our home is really not

considered double wide

17e. <guest-mandy> uncc is closed
6j. <ankash> Winds are picking up but not tropical

yet.

17f. <guest-mandy> gocarolinas .com
12c. <mahmoo> i don't deserve this
11n. <KikoV> good for you werb
28a. <guest-GSO_NC> probably waiting til the last minute...

havee the mecklinburg county schools closed?

29a. <BASSALE53> im from conn its heading our way
30b. <guest-kodiak> where did you hear this
31b. <ger3355> to a 140 mile an hour wind, a double

wide or a regular house doesn't make any difference, both are screwed.

30c. <guest-kodiak> i didnt know uncc was closed
6k. <ankash> The news says the eye should hit us

in the early AM hours.

30d. <guest-kodiak> it doesnt say it on any of the

broadcasts

16h. <guest-sweetthing> mecklenburg is closed
24e. <guest-Jojo> I have a friend in VA~Should I be

worried?

3j. <Werblessed> Our schools ae closed today

tomorrow and probably Firday

13d. <JEWELLADY> ankash i have a house in calabash

have you heard anything from there?

11o. <KikoV> deserve what? your our leader
1o. <EMT-Calvin> folks my God is able
6l. <ankash> I doubt it Jojo. They sould be okay
16i. <guest-sweetthing> calabash is flooded
24f. <guest-Jojo> Good to hear
11p. <KikoV> now if they had money, I'd be the

leader

1p. <EMT-Calvin> i have faith in jesus
32a. <guest-EZGuest367> Anyone know if I should worry about

daughter in west NC?

12d. <mahmoo> 33.5 oz Hershey's Special Dark

Chocolate

23f. <lookout4110> What's the word on Tornadoes

ankash?

31c. <ger3355> Amen EMT
1q. <EMT-Calvin> if he aint done with me
1r. <EMT-Calvin> i wont get hurt
20d. <davesbraves> west nc should be ok
13e. <JEWELLADY> how about damage in calabash?
16j. <guest-sweetthing> i am in nc and it is rainy and windy

thats all

12e. <mahmoo> oops 3.5 oz
33a. <Heavenly-AngeI> Amen emt
6m. <ankash> noworry in West NC
30e. <guest-kodiak> MANDY, whre did you hear that

UNCC is closed

16k. <guest-sweetthing> no trees flying yet thank god
1s. <EMT-Calvin> thats whty i have such a peace

in my heart tonigjt

11q. <KikoV> mahmoo, you send spices, I send

Hershey's ...even steven

32b. <guest-EZGuest367> thank you for the info
31d. <ger3355> Where you at EMT?
3k. <Werblessed> He has the pwoer just by speaking to

calm the storm

14j. <SWMPTHNG> WHERE IS THE BLASTED DEVIL

AT RIGHT NOW

1t. <EMT-Calvin> so howdy neighbor
34a. <guest-MrLover> gator, over for YOu. ... heading up

north

6n. <ankash> Are talking about the right to die?
? <klayton1> im at the jersey shore anyone here

my forecast?

24g. <guest-Jojo> gotta run....y'all take care down

there...be safe

8i. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> I'm off 35th St. mandy Farms East
35a. <IMFLOYD> all life is a deep as the

ocean..........my home.....my birthplace.........my grave

36a. <guest-Beau> Calvin, your last name wouldn't be

Graham would it

11r. <KikoV> zinc sale... that's what they call it in

the islands

1u. <EMT-Calvin> but i know alot of graphms
4h. <Kitteigh-Jo> Hi klayIm in NJ only inland tropical

storm warnngs

24h. <guest-Jojo> Bye bye
37a. <BLUEYENC> hello everyone riding out the storm
14k. <SWMPTHNG> WHATS UP WITH IM FLOYD?
1v. <EMT-Calvin> i am a member with beaufort

ems

4i. <Kitteigh-Jo> which shore are ya at klay?
6o. <ankash> ImFLOYD would you like to chat

privately?

38a. <eced> sick
8j. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> The radio just said lanfall 2 am

Wilmington Area

36b. <guest-Beau> MHC, i suspect about like in

Morehead-windy at times, some pretty heavy rains

35b. <IMFLOYD> julie........u charm me
1w. <EMT-Calvin> folks dont worrry we have got

power crews comiong from other states

39a. <swampkit> HAY SWAMPTHING!!!!witch swamp

ya from??

9c. <guest-dan-boca> yeah - the hard part is the waiting -

asking yourself "Have I prepared well enough"?

7e. <Miss-Zena> thanks.I am still here
14l. <SWMPTHNG> ARE YOU NEAR THE STORM MISS

ZENA

36c. <guest-Beau> I understand CP and L has 7000

men waiting

8k. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> EVAC outer banks, low areas &

trailers, I'm in my house

40a. <guest-ohNO> gardencity\georgetown is going to get

hit the hardest

41a. <BayouBear> LA sent a bunch of crews today
7f. <Miss-Zena> no I am in California
42a. <guest-jada> How is this supposed to effect

kinston, Wilson NC

43a. <guest-ToNYsimmons> PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THE US

ARE KEEPING YOU ALL IN PRAYER....

44a. <guest-Capt> VIAGRA AND PRUNE

JUICE....DON'T KNOW IF I'M COMING OR GOING.....

45a. <guest-BobR> Hi from Charleston SC
1x. <EMT-Calvin> i am one of the carteret county

personal for ems and fire we evacuated the beach and barrior islands today

36d. <guest-Beau> still no 11 PMs-they are late
48b. <guest-ohNO> im in Monroe,NC
35c. <IMFLOYD> a swamp that is getting deeper by the

minute..............

7g. <Miss-Zena> clear and sunny.But I was born in

Texas

39b. <swampkit> swampthing witch swampya from???
8l. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> Worried, who's worried?
48c. <guest-ohNO> i am:)
1y. <EMT-Calvin> and a mandatory evacuation for

folks in flood prone areas

36e. <guest-Beau> alk, in 4-6 hours I will be
<windysc> ohNO......gardencity/georgetown......

will not recive the brunt of the storm....e nc will

35d. <IMFLOYD> alk75........i am at the true center
48d. <guest-ohNO> yes huh u reject
35e. <IMFLOYD> hello Christina
14m. <SWMPTHNG> I'M IN LOWER SOUTH CAROLINA

MISS ZENA - USE TO TRAVEL ALL OVER CALI WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH MY SELF-DISCOVERY THING

6p. <ankash> 32.6N 78.West/120MPG/N-

NE/Hurricane force winds expected in Brunswick and

35f. <IMFLOYD> i am dying
1z. <EMT-Calvin> swmp are you near paris island
7h. <Miss-Zena> no up between LA and Sa Francisco
36f. <guest-Beau> ankash those the 11PMs
35g. <IMFLOYD> but so are we all......i have 3 days left
8m. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> The only thing I'm really worried

about is my plane

11s. <KikoV> take it easy, ohnp
14n. <SWMPTHNG> CHICO,RED BLUFF, SANTA CRUZ

MISS ZENA??

7i. <Miss-Zena> ok
1aa. <EMT-Calvin> morehead you got a plane at

beaufort air port

35h. <IMFLOYD> when i pass into the colder north

atlantic.......i will lose energy and die

14o. <SWMPTHNG> GODS SPEED BAYOU BEAR
7j. <Miss-Zena> I am south of there
11t. <KikoV> MHC, you have a plane there, they

didn't tell you a storm was coming??

6q. <ankash> It was the latest, don't know if the 11

pm has come in yet, but I will check in a couple minutes

14p. <SWMPTHNG> EVER BEEN TO PORTLAND MISS

ZENA

8n. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> yep, fortunately it's in a hanger

although Dennis peeled some roofs

39c. <swampkit> NOT this one
36g. <guest-Beau> if 78 is correct then Floyd will miss

Wilmington to the east-lookout Onslow and careret Counties

39d. <swampkit> news is on
35i. <IMFLOYD> goodbye Christina
7k. <Miss-Zena> i flew over Portland
1bb. <EMT-Calvin> hmmm
14q. <SWMPTHNG> PORTLAND IS JUST LIKE CALI

USED TO BE-FULL OF GOOD PEOPLE

WHO LET IT ALL HANG OUT

6r. <ankash> Surf City has been evacuated.
38b. <eced> hi from e city
35g. <IMFLOYD> julie..........wouldnt u b
7m. <Miss-Zena> yeah
1cc. <EMT-Calvin> belive it or not i get locksmith

jobs as far as 100 miles one way inland

1dd. <EMT-Calvin> and yes i been to topsail beach

just last month to unlock a car

35h. <IMFLOYD> but its not that bad.....i am

eternal........only not as i am now

39d. <swampkit> the eys is 135 miles out it is a catgory

1dd. <EMT-Calvin> hi wes
1ee. <EMT-Calvin> im a talkcity op also
7n. <Miss-Zena> Swmpthing what state are you in

now?

35i. <IMFLOYD> my brief life will end........but my

memory will live for awhile......and my true essence will live forever

38c. <eced> wet
39e. <swampkit> lines down.....power out...
11u. <KikoV> oh wes, you taking over for cal
14r. <SWMPTHNG> SEATTLE IS TOO MUCH LIKE

MODERN DAY FRISCO -GIVE ME OREGON ANY DAY (EXCEPT THERE AREN'T ANY SWAMPS THERE) MISS ZENA

11v. <KikoV> he needs rest
6s. <ankash> I'm sure they are okay.....they are

use to this in Surf City, Topsail.

1ff. <EMT-Calvin> i am a room op in room called

fire-4-God

39f. <swampkit> most of Charlestone NC is with out

power

14s. <SWMPTHNG> WESL - CAN YOU GIVE ME A

CURRENT FIX ON FLOYD

35j. <IMFLOYD> i've got a sister........want to see
8o. <guest-MoreheadCityNC> finally got the 11 pm tropical

discussion

7o. <Miss-Zena> yes I went to Washington to move

there but after 2 weeks I moved back to California

35k. <IMFLOYD> her she is again
39h. <swampkit> storm will hit shore in am

2. DATA FOR case study TWO – ASTROCHAT

Friday, March 03, 2000 THIS IS THE RAW MATERIAL FOR CHAPTER TWO

<#Astronet> from HomeArts.com and Talk City!

	SPEAKERS	NUMBER OF ENTRIES
1.	gina2b	4
2.	dingo42	11
3.	AquarianBlue	19
4.	Seoni	5
5.	judythejedi	22
6.	Nicole528	24
7.	kilya	3
8.	TheGods	3
9.	IroquoisPrncess	5
10.	Night-Goddess_	7
11.	poopaloo	1
12.	* sara4u	1
13.	jijirika	5
14.	safetynet10	6
15.	tazdevil144	3
16.	tazzytaz1o1	6

A/	greetings or salutations
B/	statement- open noone in particular, ever who is in the chatroom
C/	statement - to someone named or previous (earlier) speaker
D/	answer - to someone named or previous (earlier) speaker
E/	answer - open - to ever who is in the chatroom
F/	question - open - to anyone - ever who is in the chatroom
G/	question - to someone specific or previouis (earlier) speaker
?/	undetermined or not classifiable by one of the criteris above
**	uses abbreviations such as lol
**/	uses emoticons in places of words or identify
#/	new thread (if a particular thread (direction of talk)

1) B/ 1a. <gina2b> everyones a know it all!

2) G/ /\/ 2a. dingo42 nicole wahts your sign ??

3) C/ /\/ 3a. <AquarianBlue> yeah white told me to meet her tonight

4) B/ 4a. <Seoni> ** brb littletaker beak lol

5) B/ 5a. <judythejedi> she almost had me peeing my pants i was laughing so hard

6) C/ /\5 3b. <AquarianBlue> shes a sweetheart

7) G/ /\6 6a. <Nicole528> huh me..

8) C/ /\6 5b. <judythejedi> yes she is

9) C/ 7a. <kilya> think my ex lived by Murphy's #44

10) D/ /\2 3b. <AquarianBlue> nicole 528 is gemini

11) D/ /\2 6b. <Nicole528> im a Gemini

12) C/ /\9 3c. <AquarianBlue> hehe

13) C/ /\6 5c. <judythejedi>i can't wait to meet her in person

14) ? 6c. <Nicole528> 5-28<--- hehe

15) B/ 8a. <TheGods> who?

16) C/ /\10 6d. <Nicole528> thanks aqua lol

17) G/ /\13 3d. <AquarianBlue> your meeting her judy? when?

18) B/ 9a. <IroquoisPrncess> i love my sis, whiteligt

19) C/ /\18 5d. <judythejedi> whitelightmjb

20) D/ /\17 5e. <judythejedi> not sure of the date, but her agent is working on it

21) C/ /\11 2b. <dingo42> ok nicole its in the air

22) C/ /\18 5f. <judythejedi> me too prncess

23) G/ /\21 6e. <Nicole528> what?

24) G/ /\20 3e. <AquarianBlue> will she be in west palm or throughout florda

25) A/ 1b. <gina2b> coocoocoocoo

26) D/ /\24 5g. <judythejedi> she'll stop in west palm , then i'll take her to Miami for a

seminar

27) G/ /\23 2c. <dingo42> its in the AIR

28) G/ /\26 3f. <AquarianBlue> she wont be in orlando?

29) C/ /\26 3g. <AquarianBlue> sniff sniff

30) D/ /\27 6f. <Nicole528> oh yea ok

31) D/ /\28 5h. <judythejedi>i don't think so..she's bringing amtrack down maybe

31) G/ /\27 6g. <Nicole528> whats your sign dingo?

32) F/ 10a. <Night-Goddess_> anyone cool in here?

33) A/ /\32 5i. <judythejedi> hi night

34) D/ /\32 3h. <AquarianBlue> hmmmmmmm

35) D/ /\32 5j. <judythejedi>everyone is cool here

36) D/ /\32 6h. <Nicole528> is cool lol

37) A/ /\35 11a. <poopaloo> 10ty judy

38) D/ /\32 6i. <Nicole528> is cold too

39) ? 12a. * sara4u I LOVE YOU TO MUCH.......ACARD

40) B/ 13a. <jijirika>is back

41) D/ /\32 15a. <tazdevil144> cool

42) C/ /\40 3i. <AquarianBlue>** wb jiji

(welcome back to jinirika)

43) B/ 14a. <safetynet10>OK NOW CORN ON THE COB YUMY

44) ?/ 10b. <Night-Goddess_>oh really?

responding to question of who is "cool in here" #32

45) C/ /\40 5k. <judythejedi> wb jiji

(welcome back to jinirika)

46) C/ /\26 9b. <IroquoisPrncess> judy you are so lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

47) D/ /\31a 2d. <dingo42> im a libra..much scorpio with it...astrlogist after al;l

48) B/ 4b. <Seoni> **brb littletaker beak lol

49) B/ /\46? 10c. <Night-Goddess_> I is not cool

50) C/ /\49 5l. <judythejedi> yup

51) C/ /\49 6j. <Nicole528> really

52) C/ /\49 10d. <Night-Goddess_> I is awsome

53) C/ /\52 6k. <Nicole528> yes your cool

54) C/ /\46 5m. <judythejedi> lol..i know prncess

55) C/ /\47 6l. <Nicole528> cool dingo

56) C/ /\47 1c. <gina2b> coolfool

57) G/ /\54 9c. <IroquoisPrncess> hey Judy did a get my car inthe link thingy

58) B/ 10e. <Night-Goddess_> anyways

59) B/ 10f. <Night-Goddess_>bye

60) C/ /\47 6m. <Nicole528> im a gemini with tauras moon and scorpio rising

61) C/ /\55 2e. <dingo42>not cool...just me

62) B/ 13b. <jijirika>climbs back up the tree

63) G/ /\57 5n. <judythejedi> car in the link?

64) A/ 15b. < tazzytaz1o1> is Outta here!

65) A/ 16a. <tazdevil144> so hows every one to day

66) D/ /\63 9d. <IroquoisPrncess>card

67) A/ 15c. <tazzytaz1o1> bye!!!!!!!

68) A/ /\67 16b. <tazdevil144>bye taz

69) ? 7b. <kilya> Linkoln

70) G/ /\66 9e. <IroquoisPrncess> a picture of a card

71) ? * TheGods is still within the tree

72) A/ /\67 13c. <jijirika> toodles taz

73) B/ 14d. <safetynet10> EVERYONE WANTS THE TRUTH BUT NO ONE GETS IT

75) B/ 13d. <jijirika> *) :) at da room

76) C/ /\61 3s. <AquarianBlue>** lol@dingo

77) ?/ 14e. <safetynet10> ** OMG

78) C/ /\77 16e. <tazdevil144> do be so rude

79) ? 6y. <Nicole528> ** lol yea thats a great time for some

80) B/ 13e. <jijirika> as she quietly drinks her water

81) B/ 4e. <Seoni> **is confused brb gotta cll the elc company i dont owe them 157 they can kiss my white ass brb

82) 2k. <dingo42> just VERY passionated

83) 16f. <tazdevil144> ** lol

84) 6z. <Nicole528> yea

85) 14f. <safetynet10> ** LOL ME SEONI

3. DATA FOR case study THREE general_Chat

“Welcome to Talk City *** February 16 2000

AS WITH ANY CHATROOM DIALOGUE THIS IS ‘JUMPED - INTO TALK” WHAT PRECEEDS THIS INTERCHANGE IS NOT RECORDED. THIS IS A RANDOM SNIPET OF TALK from a random chatroom. This particuar ‘frozen’ moment in time is from room #50 (picked at random) on the Talk City channel taken on February 17, 2000.

participants number of entrances

1. tab_002 9

2. Leesa39 12

3. jenniferv 8

4. Ashamo416 1

5. B_witched_2002-guest 37 ALL SAME - - ‘OHI’

6. scud4 5

7. MtnBiker99 2

8. SiReNz_A 1

9. Hooligan3 1

10. soldier_boyedo835 7

11. MCXRAY 2

16. A/ = greetings or salutations

05. B/ = statement- open noone in particular, ever who is in the chatroom

16. C/ = statement - to someone named or previous (earlier) speaker

06. D/ = answer - to someone named or previous (earlier) speaker

E/ = answer - open - to ever who is in the chatroom

03. F/ = question - open - to anyone - ever who is in the chatroom

01. G/ = question - to someone specific or previouis (earlier) speaker

03. ?/ = undetermined or not classifiable by one of the criteris above

04. ** = uses abbreviations such as lol

05. *) = uses emoticons in places of words or identify

#/ = new thread (if a particular thread (direction of talk)

1) A/C/ /\/ 1a. <tab_002>

*) HI nice to see you too Jennv :)))))))

2) C/ /\/ 2a. <Leesa39>

ooooo my sweetie jake is angry

3) C/ /\/ 3a. <jenniferv>

SCUD

4) A/ 4a. <Ashamo416>

5) A/ 5a . <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

6) C/ 3b. <jenniferv>

*) nice to see you to tab ;)

7) 5b. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

8) ?/ 2b. <Leesa39>

*) :)

9) 5c. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

10) A/C/ /\3 6a. <scud4>

hiya jenn hugz and kotc S"S"

11) 5d. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

12) C/ /\10 2c. <Leesa39>

heyyyyyy scud

13) 5e. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

14) C/ /\10 3c. <jenniferv>

heheh scud

15) C/ /\12 6b. <scud4>

leesa ltns hugz and kotc S"S"

16) 5f. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

17) 5g. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

18) A/ /\15 1b. <tab_002>

hiya scud

19) 5h. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

20) 5i. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

21) --- <scud4>

<----on his way to the main room

22) 5j. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

23) C/ /\15 2d. <Leesa39>

same to ya scud

24) 5k. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

25) 5l. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

26) A/ /\21 3d. <jenniferv>

*) buh bye scud ;)

27) 5m. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

28) 5n. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

29) C/ /\23 6c. <scud4>

thanx leesa "S"

30) 5o. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

31) A/ /\29 1c. <tab_002>

see ya scud

32) 5p. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

33) 5q. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

34) 5r. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

35) 5s. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

36) --- 6d. <scud4>

<----is now door testin

37) 5t. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

38) 5u. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

39) ?/ 3e. <jenniferv>

** LOL

40) 5v. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

41) A/ 7a. <MtnBiker99>

Hello everyone

42) C/ /\36 2e. <Leesa39>

lol scud

43) 5w. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

44) 5x. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

45) F/ 8a. <SiReNz_A>

Hey anyone wanna chat with a 17/FEMALE?? message me ) please

46) 5y. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

47) C/ /\46 6e. <scud4>

bwitched stop scrollin in here

48) 5z. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

49) A/ 9a. <Hooligan3>

hey

50) 5aa. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

51) A/ /\41 2f. <Leesa39>

hi Biker

52) 5ab. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

53) ?/ 10a. <soldier_boyedo835>

10H damnit

54) G/ /\39 1d. <tab_002>

so how you been jenn?

55) 5ac. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

56) 5ad. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

57) D/ /\54 3f. <jenniferv>

good tab and you?

58) 5ae. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

59) 5af. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

60) 5ag. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

61) D/ /\57 1e. <tab_002>

*) good here too :)

62) 5ah. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

63) 5ai. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

64) 5aj. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

65) 5ak. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

66) A/ /\51 7b. <MtnBiker99>

hey leesa

67) 5al. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

68) C/ /\67 2g. <Leesa39>

B_witched we see ya

69) 5am. <B_witched_2002-guest>

0HI

70) A/ /\67 1f. <tab_002>

hi bwitch

71) F/ 10b. <soldier_boyedo835>

10Ok quit allready

72) B/ 2h. <Leesa39>

** gawd lol

73) B/ 3g. <jenniferv>

** rofl

74) C/ /\ 10c. <soldier_boyedo835>

10damnit

75) B/ 1g. <tab_002>

** lol

76) C/ 10d. <soldier_boyedo835>

10how the hell is everyone tonight?

77) B/ 2i. <Leesa39>

ummm the whispers

78) F/ 7b. <MtnBiker99>

a/s/l everyone?

79) D/ /\78 1h. <tab_002>

good soldier how bouts you?

80) C/ 2j. <Leesa39>

with that nic hmm

81) A/ 2j. <jenniferv>

hiya ray

82) A/ /\81 11a. <MCXRAY>

heya jenn

83) A/ 1i. <tab_002>

hi ray

84) A/ /\82 2k. <Leesa39>

helloooooooooo MCX

85) D/ /\83 10e. <soldier_boyedo835>

10good tab

86) D/ 10f. <soldier_boyedo835>

10thanks

87) D/ /\ 10g. <soldier_boyedo835>

10I'm grrrrrrrrrrreat

88) C/ /\84 2l. <Leesa39>

woohooooooooo MCX

89) B/ 11b. <MCXRAY>

dam thig be pssssin me offf lol

4. DATA FOR case study Four moderated web_3d

General Web3D Chat Log for Feb 2 2000

At http://web3d.about.com/compute/web3d/library/chatlogs/2000/blcl020900a.htm

Log on 020900.log started at Wed Feb 09 18:34:02 PST 2000 until 20:05:30 PST total time = 1 hour 31 minutes

number of entries

1. Leonard 28

2. web3dADM 145

3. brian 60

4. justin 61

5. pauline 22

6. gordon (Web3DCEO) 117

7. armani 8

8. louis

A/ = greetings or salutations

B/ = statement- open noone in particular, ever who is in the chatroom

C/ = statement - to someone named or previous (earlier) speaker

D/ = answer - to someone named or previous (earlier) speaker

E/ = answer - open - to ever who is in the chatroom

F/ = question - open - to anyone - ever who is in the chatroom

G/ = question - to someone specific or previouis (earlier) speaker

?/ = undetermined or not classifiable by one of the criteris above

--- = (NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF --- ABOVE)

** = uses abbreviations such as lol

** = uses emoticons in places of words or identify

#/ = new thread (if a particular thread (direction of talk)

turn) type/ /\ to speaker

1) B/ 1a. Leonard

Sort night for me tonight...

Gotta take my oldest to scouts

brian joined.............

2) D/ /\1 2a. web3dADM

sort night?

ahhhh

3) A/ 3a. brian

hi all

4) B/ 4a. justin

my first visit here; what's normal?

5) B/ 2b. web3dADM

I just got back (as always) from shlepping my son

6) D/ /\02 1b. Leonard

Sort == new term for Short

7) D/ /\04 3b. brian

not me

8) D/ /\04 2c. web3dADM

*) NORMAL ;-)

*) I try not to be normal ;-)

nothing formal justin unless there is a guest

9) D/ /\06 1c. Leonard

We are all normal, the rest of the world is crazy

10) B/ 2c. web3dADM

#/ just got the Cult3D folks to agree to show up on March 3

11) D/ /\10 4b. justin

what's cult3d

12) D/ /\11 2d . web3dADM

it's another 3D format for the web

13) G/ /\12 4c. justin

different from VRML or X3D?

14) B/ 2e. web3dADM

the interesting thing (IMHO) about cult is that they have a plugin

of some sort for Acrobat

15) D/ /\13 2f. web3dADM

yes different

16) C/ /\15 3c. brian

Acrobat ... didn't know that

17) B/ 2g. web3dADM

so you could create highly formatted PDF files with interactive

3D in them

18) B/ 3d. brian

cult3d seems expensive tho

19) G/ /\17 4d. justin

is it an Active-X type download component?

20) D/ /\19 2h. web3dADM

don't remember BUT

go and get the new "3D Magazine" spring issue...special on

Web3D

21) F/ 1d. Leonard

#/ Anyone used Xeena?

22) C/ /\20 1e. Leonard

3D just arrived today

23) D/ /\21 2i. web3dADM

no it's on my list

24) C/ /\22 2j. web3dADM

ahhh great Len

25) C/ /\24 1f. Leonard

It appears to be a memory HOG

26) C/ /\25 2k. web3dADM

hmmmm I'm looking forward to your X3D course Len!

27) C/ /\26 1g. Leonard

I'm working on it right now...

21) - 27) dialogue between two people only

28) G/ /\26 3e. brian

online course?

brian doesn’t get a response until 38)

29) G/ /\27 2l. web3dADM

was it hard to install the xeena stuff?

30) D/ /\29 1h. Leonard

Xeena was easy to install...

31) G/ /\30 2m. web3dADM

what do you use to view the X3D?

32) D/ /\29 1i. Leonard

The downloads are big - particulary Java 2

33) D/ /\29 1j. Leonard

I have DSL so that's not really a problem

34) G/ /\33 2n. web3dADM

yeah I'm a little concerned about installing Java2 on my machine

at work....will it screw up the other browsers?

35) D/ /\34 1k. Leonard

Xeena has a X3D -> VRML XSL translator - then use your

favorite

36) D/ /\34 1l. Leonard

I installed the Java 2 SDK

37) G/ /\36 2o. web3dADM

so you view with VRML?

38) D/ /\28 1m. Leonard

Brian: I will be teaching the X3D course at the VRML 2000

Conference

39) C/ /\38 3f. brian

oh ... ta

40) D/ /\39 1n. Leonard

I will be offereing it on-line through Digital University sometime this

41) C/ /\40 3g. brian

can't make it

42) ---- 1n. Leonard

spring

(NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF 40 ABOVE)

43) C/ /\40 2p. web3dADM

cool

44) C/ /\40 2.q web3dADM

I'd like to do one for ZDU but they don't seem interested yet

45) D/ /\36 1o. Leonard

Righ now VRML is the only mechanism for viewing X3D.

46) C/ /\34 1p. Leonard

No one has written an X3D compliant browser - spec not final yet

(NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF 45 ABOVE)

47) B/ 3h. brian

still confused about x3d

48) D/ /\47 2r. web3dADM

so are most people brian

49) F/ 3i. brian

r u talking about blaxxun and shout3d implimentations or

something else

50) B/ 1q. Leonard

They are still debating some wrapping issues

pauline joined.............

51) A/ 5a. pauline

hello there....

52) A/ /\51 2s. web3dADM

hey pauline!

53) C/ /\52 5b. pauline

hiya sandy ! how are things going ?

54) B/ 1r. Leonard

blaxxun and Shout have browsers based on their proposals, but no

ones proposals were adopted in totality

55) A/ /\51 1s. Leonard

Hi Pauline

56) A/ /\55 5c pauline

hi leonard !

57) F/ 3i. brian

what do u refer to when u say x3d then?

58) B/ 3j. brian

network lagged today!!

59) D/ /\57 1t. Leonard

Think of X3D as redoing the infrastructure of VRML. It is not a change

60) D/ /\57 1u. Leonard

in functionality, but a change in the language.

61) G/ /\60 3k. brian

i thought it was a subset of vrml?

62) D/ /\57 2t. web3dADM

x3d is VRML with an XML syntax

63) B/ 1v. Leonard

Of course, Core X3D is MUCH smaller than VRML - about 1/2

the nodes

64) B/ 3l. brian

to allow small client downloads

(NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF 61 ABOVE)

65) F/ 5d. pauline

are there any add-ons compare vrml with x3d ??

66) D/ /\65 2u. web3dADM

add-ons?

67) B/ 1w. Leonard

Core is a subset. The browsers looked to come in at about 50K

68) 1x. Leonard

they will download with the content

(NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF 67 ABOVE)

69) G/ /\66 5e. pauline

i mean additional nodes, for example ?

70) D/ /\69 1y. Leonard

No additional nodes for X3D right now

71) D/ /\70 2v. web3dADM

you can create your own...somehow

72) F/ 2w. web3dADM

what is happening with extension mechanisms?

73) F/ 3m. brian

has the blaxxun and shout releases thrown a spanner into the works?

74) C/ /\70-715f. pauline

** ah..i c..

75) D/ /\73 2x. web3dADM

i think the blaxxun & shout stuff has helped! shows what is

possible with no plugin

76) F/ /\75 3n. brian

but what about compliance ... or don't u see that as too important?

77) E/ /\76 2y. web3dADM

compliance is very important

but it's unclear to me how it will happen

78) C/ /\77 3o. brian

yeh

79) B/ 1z. Leonard

There are proposals to add NURBS, multi-textures, and

something else (I forget)

80) F/ 3p. brian

so does xeena require java 2?

81) D/ /\80 2z. web3dADM

yeah think so

81) D/ /\80 1aa. Leonard

You can run Xeena with Java 1.1.7 (or so)

82) B/ 3q. brian

i heard microsoft won't be supporting java2 in next ie

83) C/ /\82 2aa. web3dADM

oh great

84) B/ 1bb. Leonard

There is a subgroup that is working on compliance someone from

NIST Java is now available as a pluggin

85) B/ 5g. pauline

sorry...be back in a min....

86) B/ 1cc. Leonard

Of course, we all know what pluggins mean

(NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF 84 ABOVE)

87) B/ 1dd. Leonard

gotta go now. Try to make next week. See some of you in

Monterey bye...

88) A/ /\87 2bb. web3dADM

see ya

89) G/ /\84 3r. brian

doesn't that defeat the purpose of java

Leonard left.............

90) A/ /\87 3s. brian

bye

91) D/ /\89 2cc. web3dADM

yeah i think it partially does brian

alexB joined.............

92) B/ 3t. brian

small crowd

93) A/ 3u. brian

hi alex

94) B/ 2dd. web3dADM

i guess MS and Sun will piss at each other about java for a while

95) A/ 2ee. web3dADM

hi alex

alexB left.............

96) ?/ 2ff. web3dADM

** lol

97) A/ 3v. brian

bye alex

98) B/ 2gg. web3dADM

*) scared him right off ;-)

99) C/ /\98 3w. brian

** lol

100) B/ 3x. brian

wish i could get to a web3d conference some time!

101) G/ /\100 2hh. web3dADM

where do you live brian?

102) D /\101 3y. brian

brisbane, AU

103) F/ 4e. justin

What VRML options work within AOL?

104) D/ /\103 3z. brian

dunno

105) C/ /\102 2ii. web3dADM

ahhh an ausse...a bunch of good vrml folks there

106) D/ /\103 2jj. web3dADM

I don't believe AOL supports VRML at all

107) F/ 4f. justin

Will X3D work better there because it's Java-based?

108) D/ 2kk. web3dADM

which really sucks...but i'm not completely sure

(NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF 106 ABOVE)

109) F/ /\107 2ll. web3dADM

X3D is not necessarity Java based that is just 1 implementation

option

110) F/ /\107 2mm. web3dADM

I'm sure there will be stand alone and plugin versions of X3D viewers

(NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF 109 ABOVE)

111) F/ 3aa. brian

so did len say x3d not finalised yet?

112) D/ /\111 2nn. web3dADM

x3d is not finalized yet...yes true

i think the final spec is due by siggraph time this summer

but a lot should happen at the web3d conference too

113) G/ /\112 3bb. brian

is a lot of business done there?

114) D/ /\113 2oo. web3dADM

yeah quite a bit i suppose....most of the working groups meet

115) C/ /\113 3cc. brian

there's not a lot of info about the BUSINESS of web3d

116) C/ /\115 2pp. web3dADM

ahhh you mean money business?

117) B/ 3dd. brian

maybe someone should write a regular column

i'm interested in what makes some of these companies tick!

118) B/ 3ee. brian

eg. blaxxun, shout etc

(NOTE: THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF 117 ABOVE)

119) B/ 5h. pauline

am back...

120) A/ /\119 2qq. web3dADM

hi there

121) A/ /\1205i. pauline

*) hi again. ;-)

122) C/ /\117 2rr. web3dADM

*) well I'm writing lots ;-)

123) C/ /\122 3ff. brian

yeh, you're the info hub!

124) B/ 2ss. web3dADM

seriously...get the new "3D Magazine" issue on web3d

125) C/ /\124 3gg. brian

ok we'll probably get it here in oz in a few months! :(

126) B/ 2tt. web3dADM

ecommerce is certainly a good app...should help

127) C/ /\126 2uu. web3dADM

it may be up on there web site soon www.3dgate.com

128) ?/ 3hh. brian

thanks

129) F/ 5j. pauline

are there a lot of e-commerce sites doing vrml or 3d ??

130) D/ /\129 2vv. web3dADM

definitly growing

131) C/ /\126 3ii. brian

seems to have taken of (relatively) over the last 6 onths

132) D/ /\129 2ww. web3dADM

ahhhh! www.3dgate.com has the new issue!

133) D/ /\129 2xx. web3dADM

don't know if the content is online though

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134) C/ /\133 3jj. brian

looking

135) - 2yy. web3dADM

there is a good list of products from my article that is

downloadable it appears

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136) C/ /\107 2zz. web3dADM

the chat does that often justin

137) B/ 4g. justin

We're building a VRML/X3D content implementation

138 C/ /\137 2aaa. web3dADM

*) do tell ;-)

139) C/ /\138 4h. justin

compositing real-world data for free-roaming simulation

140) G/ /\139 2bbb. web3dADM

free-roaming simulation? what do you mean?

141) B/ 4i. justin

still frustrated by VRML limitations

142) C/ /\141 2ccc. web3dADM

yep lots of implementation hassles

143) D/ /\141 4j. justin

essentially a magic carpet to go anywhere on Earth

challenge is to stream data and create models "on-the-fly"

144) C/-G/ /\143 2ddd. web3dADM

very cool....did you see Chris Thorne's article on getting rid

of seams that would be relevant to you also

145) F/ 4k. justin

curious whether x3d will really help, or whether we'll have to

follow another path

146) D/ /\141 2eee. web3dADM

VRML doesn't stream really and yeah integrating with database

and dynamic stuff is not easy

147) C/ /\146 4l. justin

yes, saw that geovrml thread. Chris is very good in this

area

148) C/ /\146 4m. justin

We'd discovered that problem last year, and switched to IFS

because of it

149) G/ /\148 2fff. web3dADM

my guess is that it will be a while until x3d helps...but it's hard to

say...do you have hard deadlines?

150) C/ /\149 4n. justin

(smile) NOTE JUSTIN DOES NOT USE THE SMILE ICON

151) ?/ /\151 2ggg. web3dADM

** lol

Gordon joined.............

152) C/ /\149 4o. justin

of course, it's the nature of the start-up world!

153) A/ 6a. Gordon

Hi hi

154) C/ /\152 2hhh. web3dADM

it's a great application though

155) A/ /\153 2iii. web3dADM

hi gordon

156) A/ /\153 5k. pauline

hi gordon...

147) A/ 6b. Gordon

hey

148) F/ 6c. Gordon

what you guys talking about

149) B/ /\154 4p. justin

Mobile Maps has an interesting solution

150) -- 4q. justin

and SkyLine Software are doing good work too

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151) G/ /\149 2jjj. web3dADM

do you have URLs for them?

152) G/ /\149 5l. pauline

justin, do u have urls for these ??

153) D/ /\152/151 4r. justin

I can find them in a few minutes ..

154) C/ /\153 2kkk. web3dADM

ok thanks ...think i may have seen the mobile maps stuff

155) F/ 6d. Gordon

what's mobile map?

156) D/ /\155 2lll. web3dADM

terrain visualization i think

157) B/ 4s. justin

not finding them fast enough. I think *.com will find them both

Mobile Maps may be with HighLand Software

158) B/ 6e. Gordon

Cool..

159) B/ 4t. justin

Both are real-world streaming 3D viewers

160 --- 4u. justin

One of these companies will have a full solution within the

year I predict

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161) B/ 2mmm.web3dADM

mobilemaps.com goes to some weird site

162) D/ /\155 4v. justin

Essentially a flight simulator to anywhere

163) B/ 2nnn. web3dADM

i think there is an israeli company also that some

terrain viz stuff with VRML

164) B 4v. justin

Fun part will be to get high-resolution for any spot

165) C/ /\163 5m. pauline

*) lol, hopefullly is a family site, sandy ! ;-)

166) C/ /\165 2ooo. web3dADM

** lol think so!

167) C/ /\163 4w. justin

Yes, I think TWO Israeli cos. Don't remember names

168) C/ /\167 2ppp. web3dADM

i'm sure i have it on my companies page

169) B/ 4x. justin

The LOD work in the GeoVRML group is important

170) F/ 6f. Gordon

#/ hey, guys, what do you think of the new Cosmo software

page?

171) C/ /\169 2qqq. web3dADM

yeah there are doing good stuff in GeoVRML

172) C/ /\170 4y. justin

I saw the re-emergence of Cosmo. About time!

173) D/ /\171 2rrr. web3dADM

the Cosmo page is GREAT it links to me :-) for the gallery

174) C/ /\173 6g. Gordon

hehe

175) C/ /\170 4z. justin

Still looks like the old software, though

176) C/ /\175 5n. pauline

*) :-)

177) C/ /\175 2sss. web3dADM

yeah old softwrae

178) B/ 6h. Gordon

I like the old cosmo gallery

179) ?/ 6i. Gordon

*) ;)

180) B/ 4aa. justin

Viewpoint is very prominent

181) B/ 3kk. brian

all old stuff too little ... too late

182) B/ 2ttt. web3dADM

I intend on creating a new gallery also actually

183) C/ /\182 6j. Gordon

really?

184) --- 6k. Gordon

cool

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185) --- 6l. Gordon

I think cosmo has got some great gallery of it's own isn't it?

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186) B/ 2uuu. web3dADM

Hopefully in the near future I will start asking folks to send me

Worlds for a gallery

187) B/ 6m. Gordon

I still havn't seen that famous "Aztec" vRML

188) C/ /\185 2vvv. web3dADM

they used to....but I suspect lots of it was broken

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189) B/ 4bb. justin

What sort of polygon limits do you typically think of?

190) 6n. Gordon

it was said to be in "Developer section of the old Cosmo site"

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191) C/ /\181 2www. web3dADM

ahhh yeah from Hartman's book ...probably on the CD

192) C/ /\191 3ll. brian

got the book ... not cd tho

193)2xxx. web3dADM

SGI had lots of very cool VRML

194) ?/ 2yyy. web3dADM

bummer

195) C/ /\193 3mm. brian

still do

196) B/ /\191 6o. Gordon

yeh

197) B/ /\191 6p. Gordon

the funny thing is

198) B/ 3nn. brian

sgi visual workstatio demos by sam chen are great

199) C/ /\198 2zzz. web3dADM

yeah the new SGI NT boxes come with a great VRML intro

200) --- 6q. Gordon

that when I try to view those SGI vrml, or any VRML with .gz

extension to it

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201) C/ /\200 2ab. web3dADM

yeah

202) B/ 6r. Gordon

Winzip take over

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203) C/ /\202 3oo. brian

rename em

204 F/ 4cc. justin

Has anyone any experience with Islands from ParallelGraphics?

205) C/ /\202 2ac. web3dADM

that's just a config issue Gordon

206) D/ /\204 2ad. web3dADM

no not yet justin

207) C/ /\205 6s. Gordon

hmm

208) C/ /\205 6t. Gordon

it is not exactly a config issue

209) B/ 2ae. web3dADM

most of parallel's stuff is pretty good

210) ?/ 6u. Gordon

I don't know...

211) B/ 5m. pauline

#/ what's the status of cw since they do a new look to the site ?

212) --- 6v. Gordon

cos, even when I didn't install Winzip

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213) C/ 212 2af. web3dADM

yeah if you can rename the files that would be simplest Gordon

214) C/ /\211 3pp. brian

no status

215) --- 3qq. brian

cw is buried

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216) C/ /\211 4dd. justin

cw?

217) B/ 2ag. web3dADM

i think CW is dead

218) B/ 6w. Gordon

cosmo player doesn't seem to be recognising the World.wrl.gz

219) C/ /\218 2ah. web3dADM

cosmoworlds

220) C/ /\218 5n. pauline

what a pity !

221) B/ /\217 3rr. brian

.... for now

222) C/ /\220 2ai. web3dADM

yeah very much a pity

223) B/ 4ee. justin

Did CAI dismantle InterVista completely?

224) --- 6x. Gordon

double extension problem

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225) C/ /\223 6y. Gordon

Wow, takes a comany to destroy two...

226) C/ /\218 2aj. web3dADM

ahhh so you have the file called foo.wrl.gz ??

227) C/ /\226 6z. Gordon

yeh

something like that

most of the old VRML is made that way

228) B/ 5o. pauline

phone rings...hang on..

229) ?/ 6aa. Gordon

double extension

230) C/ /\218 2ak. web3dADM

i just name all the files .wrl which is annoying

231) --- 2al. web3dADM

right

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232) C/ /\231 6bb. Gordon

yeh

233) G/ /\231 2am. web3dADM

are you on a PC gordon?

234) C/ /\231 6cc. Gordon

the major problem is that when I download those double

extension VRML

235) D/ /\233 6dd. Gordon

Yes I am on PC it stops loading inlining of texture and

geometry when it encounter the problem

236) C/ /\231 2an. web3dADM

hmmmmm so the VRML refers to other .wrl.gz files?

237) C/ /\236 3ss. brian

just rename starting wrl.gz

238) G/ 5o. pauline

which browser do you use, gordon ?

239) --- 6ee. Gordon

It simply doesn't recognise it

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240) --- 3tt. brian

all inlines can remain wrl.gz

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241) D/ /\240 2ao. web3dADM

yeah I think that's correct brian

242) --- 6ff. Gordon

even when I change it from Windows System

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243) --- 2ap. web3dADM

just rename the top level file to a .wrl file

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244) C/ /\240 4ff. justin

right, my experience is they should read wrl.gz the same

arman joined.............

245) D/ /\238 6gg. Gordon

well, i am using IE 5

246) B/ 5q. pauline

some versions of netscape can't pickup the cosmo plugin....

247) C/ /\244 2aq. web3dADM

is it expecting the textures in another directory?

248) A/ 2ar. web3dADM

hi arman

249) B/ /\242 6hh. Gordon

and it doesn't load when it is suppose to load

250) A/ 5r. pauline

hi arman

251) --- 6ii. Gordon

I mean the wrl.gz file

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252) C/ /\251 3uu. brian

check the wrl code to see where its looking for textures

253) ? 2as. web3dADM

*) hey arman where's hammer ;-)

254)6jj. Gordon

it can't recognise it......

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255) ?/ 3vv. brian

what??

256) --- 6kk. Gordon

it can't go past the initial world loading, so can't load...

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257) B/ 4gg. justin

Our CosmoP is loading textures 180 degrees backwards from WorldView or Cortona

258) C/ /\257 6ll. Gordon

hehe

259) G/ /\257 2at. web3dADM

is that a bug or unspecified behavior with the spec justin

260) G/ /\256 5s. pauline

it starts loading and then stop, Gordon ?

262) G/ /\256 4hh. justin

Do you get any geometry Gordon?

263) B 6mm. Gordon

lots of probelm to address to Cosmo

264) D/ /\262 6nn. Gordon

no geometry

265) B/ 3ww. brian

you won't get an answer!!!!

266) C/ /\265 6oo. Gordon

hehe

267) --- brian

from Cosmo i mean

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268) C/ /\263 4ii. justin

Support all gone!

269) C/ /\268 2au. web3dADM

it's too bad Cosmo still renders geometry the best

270) B/ /\ 3xx. brian

i like cortona

271) B/ 6pp. Gordon

NOthing is load when those double extension wrl.gz file is

presented.

272) C/ 271 3yy. brian

its getting better by the month

273) C/ /\272 2av. web3dADM

maybe we'll get some open source in a few weeks at the

conference for cosmo

274) C/ /\270 4jj. justin

My Cortona navigation controls fall off the screen

275) C/ /\274 2aw. web3dADM

yeah cortona and blaxxun are both improving

276) C/ /\274 6qq. Gordon

haha

277) C/ /\2784 6rr. Gordon

fall off

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278) C/ /\277 3zz. brian

gordon, try downloading the entire vrml directory with an offline

browser like websnake or blackwidow

279) C/ /\277 3aaa. brian

then alter the filename

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280) C/ /\278 6ss. Gordon

brian >> can you do that?

281) C/ /\278 6tt. Gordon

do they support VRML file?

282) B/ 7a arman

we are making a puppet theater on-line with cosmo as authoring

tool

283) C/ /\277 3bbb. brian

it works 95% of time

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284) C/ /\278 6uu. Gordon

websnake or blackwdow I mean

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285) C/ /\282 2ax. web3dADM

cool arman!

286) G/ /\282 2ay. web3dADM

do you mean cosmoworlds? arman

287) G/ /\286 4kk. justin

cosmoworlds?

288) C/ /\277 3ccc. brian

or u could try using blaxxun contact as it has its own inbuilt cache

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289) D/ /\288 6vv. Gordon

I use Teleport Pro, and it doesn't seem to support vrml

290 C/ /\288 6ww. Gordon

arrr,, I hate blaxxun.

291) C/ /\299 6xx. Gordon

hehe

292) D/ /\286/287 7b. arman

cosmoworld yes

293) C/ /\290 3ddd. brian

blaxxun is good ... if u turn off the ugly interface

294) C/ /\282 2az. web3dADM

arman you should check out www.vrmldream.com they did some theater stuff with VRML

295) G/ /\293 6yy. Gordon

Brian >> when you use WebSnake, do they load in the Texture inline too ?

296) D/ /\295 3eee. brian

sometimes ... sometimes not

297) G/ /\294 6zz. Gordon

I mean to parse the directory structure correctly..

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298) ?/ 6aaa. Gordon

heh.

299) D/ /\294 6bbb. Gordon